Doesn’t matter who the Ravens new OC is…you’re not going to like him

January 15, 2014 | Drew Forrester

Doesn’t matter who the Ravens new OC is…you’re not going to like him

This will be short and sweet.

As the Ravens begin their search for an offensive coordinator, this much, I know to be true.

No matter who they hire, nearly all of you will eventually want that guy fired.  And it won’t take long.  That’s how Baltimore has rolled all the way back to the days of Matt Cavanaugh.  The honest truth — Ravens fans haven’t ever really liked an offensive coordinator.

I could go into all the reasons why this is so, pointing to things like Fantasy Football, Madden and other associated football video games and the constant breaking down of film on TV sports shows on the NFL Network, ESPN, etc.

That said, even taking into account all of those things I listed above, it won’t matter here in Baltimore.  You guys (and gals) won’t like the “new one” twelve months from now.

“But Drew, what if the team wins and the offense is good next season?”

It won’t matter.

The team went to the playoffs for five straight seasons, went to three AFC title games and won a Super Bowl and, somehow, the Head Coach of the team sucks according to a lot of you.

When the Ravens win, it’s in spite of Harbaugh — that’s what some of you think.

When the Ravens lose, it’s because Harbaugh finally got exposed — you also think that.

Well, the same thing will most certainly happen with the new Offensive Coordinator.  You won’t like him, either.

How do I know that?

Because you’ve proved that over the last decade or so.

It’s never good enough.

If the Ravens score 35 points, but lose, you’ll still cry about the 3rd and 2 they didn’t get on the 11 yard line when they threw a swing pass to Ray Rice that he short-armed.

If they score 35 points, and win, you’ll forget that the following week when they score 20 and lose.

A lot of you have displayed an amazingly short memory when it comes to the football team in town and how exceptional they’ve really been in the John Harbaugh era.

If only you held the Orioles to the same standard.

 

 

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  1. Chris Says:

    I agree. Fans always complain no matter what. People forget how lucky we are. Not many teams go to the playoffs for 5 straight years and win 2 Super Bowls in a 12 year period.

    Regarding the orioles, I don’t think people hold them to any standard whatsoever because people don’t care. Honestly that’s worse than people complaining. Sadly the O’s are meeting our expectations.

  2. lakerboy Says:

    Drew…Do you honestly believe that it’s different in any other NFL city? If you’re not winning the hammer is going to fall on someone. I believe that players and coaches are held to an ever higher competitive standard because of the money involved with professional sports. High end seats at Ravens games go for $150 – $200 a pop, and with pricey concessions and parking, fans want a winning product and homogeneous environment to view a game. The high prices embolden many fans to be overly critical of players and coaches if they don’t win. I also believe that there are more fights and less tolerance of opposing fans because of the high price of tickets. The lack of civility directly corresponds with the rise in ticket prices. No one wants to sit next to someone rooting for the other guys when you pay $150 bucks for a ticket to a game.
    And Chris, you’re right. There’s a real problem when fans become apathetic regarding your product, like they are with the Orioles. No one is convinced the O’s can get it right, so any criticisms are like “beating a dead horse”. (No Colt pun intended).

  3. John in Westminster Says:

    The Orioles? Do they play in the AFC or NFC?

  4. unitastoberry Says:

    Lets face it except for Vinny the first two seasons,Joes playoff runs especially last year and his rookie year,plus Jamals big years here,the offense has been offensive.

  5. Steve from Sandpoint Says:

    With the fans paying high prices to attend games, you better bet the fans have the right to be critical of the product there watching !!!

  6. eric Says:

    update per T Grossi: all Browns asst coaches are free to leave. NO restrictions

  7. The Armchair QB Says:

    Can’t speak for others, but, hopefully, they choose someone with a successful track record. As for the Ravens’ record since Harbaugh became head coach in 2008, he and Flacco are inextricably linked, so it’s virtually impossible to assess either’s success without the other! As we’ve discussed, EVERY great coach has had a great QB……

  8. Robert Says:

    If we had a more prolific offense the past 15 years, then the defense would have been suspect, and we would instead criticize the defensive coordinator. I would like to see the Ravens become more offensively-oriented, score more points and avoid those games where they don’t score a touchdown. I doubt the Ravens’ fans are any different than any other NFL team. Cheers.

  9. BmoreB Says:

    Drew…. The Holier Than Thou approach is not a good look. Your take may apply to a fair amount of fans but I don’t think that applies to the majority. At least I hope not. Last year’s offensive woes were more of a personnel (O Line) issue than a coaching issue in my estimation. Caldwell however had a decent amount of culpability, let’s not forget that fact. And it is a fact. (DF: I said from the start Caldwell was responsible — remember, I’m the guy who wrote the day after the season he should be gone. As for “holier than thou”, it’s easy for me to write what I wrote — I’ve been doing this for 12 years and I have a lot of history to reflect on. Football fans in this town are goofy. That might not apply to you — or it might. But the truth is, people in this town have NEVER liked an Offensive Coordinator despite two Super Bowls and four AFC title games since 1996.)

  10. Chuck Says:

    Drew,

    You stated this morning that a source within the organization indicated that the Ravens have a history of hiring “outside the box” coaches. Nobody outside the organization can say with 100 percent certitude whom the team will hire to replace Caldwell. But for the Ravens to suggest that the organization has such a creative hiring history is spin at best, more likely a lie.

    Other than John Harbaugh, who was hired only after Jason Garrett (then a candidate on the short list of more than a few teams) rejected the Ravens offer to become HC, which coaching hire by the organization was so creative and outside the box?

    The Ravens may in this case ultimately hire an off the radar OC, but that would be the exception rather than the rule. Their history is a conservative one, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. It would in fact be out of character. Or as a former Ravens HC who was also in high demand and thus not an outside the box hire following a 15-1 regular season stint as an OC used to always say, “not our profile”.

    Have a nice day.

    (DF: Please listen to the show more closely — I didn’t say “a source said the Ravens have a history of hiring outside the box”. Not at all. I said, “the source reminded me that when they hired John Harbaugh in 2008 he was an outside-the-box name and suggested that I keep that in mind when I’m outlining candidates for the vacant OC position.” Thanks.)

  11. tsnamm Says:

    Drew, all fans are the same way…having worked in NYC & Chicago, in my opinion Baltimore fans are incredibly tolerant, especially compared to other East Coast cities like NYC, Boston & Philly. It’s always “what have you done for me lately”. The oldest joke in pro football is ” who’s’ the most popular player on the team? The backup QB! As far as the Orioles are concerned, most of the folks on your website hold them to a higher standard. The problem is, the sports media in this town do not (except ‘NST). Thank God for the internet which they don’t control yet. (DF: Really? The fans in Boston and NY think Belichick can’t coach? NY fans think Coughlin can’t coach? Maybe you’re right…but I doubt that’s the case.)

  12. Chris, Bel Air Says:

    Drew-

    Without doubt, there will be a fans who do not like the OC hiring just one minute after it is announced (they will know better) and there will be fans upset after one half of a preseason game. Does this occur elsewhere? Probably. There is always a faction of “fans” that are never satisfied. Fans in Boston may not think “Belichick can’t coach” but I bet they have something they like to complain about with him.

    For the record, Harbs sounds like a good person and his record on the field show he is obviously a good coach. Here is one fan that is glad he is here.

  13. OVER40DON Says:

    I don’t care who they hire as long as he calls a quick slant pass when they need 3-4 yards on 3rd down, at least every once in awhile. Caldwell never seemed to call that play or Flacco wouldn’t throw it for some reason. Every team we face does it to us.
    I saw more imaginative offenses in the college bowl games than most of the season for the Ravens.

  14. BmoreB Says:

    BmoreB Says:
    January 15th, 2014 at 9:07 am
    Drew…. The Holier Than Thou approach is not a good look. Your take may apply to a fair amount of fans but I don’t think that applies to the majority. At least I hope not. Last year’s offensive woes were more of a personnel (O Line) issue than a coaching issue in my estimation. Caldwell however had a decent amount of culpability, let’s not forget that fact. And it is a fact. (DF: I said from the start Caldwell was responsible — remember, I’m the guy who wrote the day after the season he should be gone. As for “holier than thou”, it’s easy for me to write what I wrote — I’ve been doing this for 12 years and I have a lot of history to reflect on. Football fans in this town are goofy. That might not apply to you — or it might. But the truth is, people in this town have NEVER liked an Offensive Coordinator despite two Super Bowls and four AFC title games since 1996.)
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    Drew… If it’s easy to write in that manner maybe you should try something a little more challenging and a little less of the holier than thou approach. Just some constructive criticism as I typically like your posts, but this was a bit much.

    (DF: I’m a huge Springsteen fan but I don’t like all of his songs. You can’t please everyone all the time. In this case, if it hurt your feelings that I called you out, please know it wasn’t intentional.)

  15. BmoreB Says:

    Drew… If it’s easy to write in that manner maybe you should try something a little more challenging and a little less of the holier than thou approach. Just some constructive criticism as I typically like your posts, but this was a bit much.

    (DF: I’m a huge Springsteen fan but I don’t like all of his songs. You can’t please everyone all the time. In this case, if it hurt your feelings that I called you out, please know it wasn’t intentinonal.)
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    Looks like the only one that was called out and got their feelings hurt was you. Nice try at spinning but you can do better. At least I think you can.

    (DF: Thanks. You better keep me on blast, then, because you won’t like today’s piece either. LOL)

  16. BmoreB Says:

    Looks like the only one that was called out and got their feelings hurt was you. Nice try at spinning but you can do better. At least I think you can.

    (DF: Thanks. You better keep me on blast, then, because you won’t like today’s piece either. LOL)

    lol … will do, it’s all in good fun

  17. tsnamm Says:

    As a matter of fact Drew I’ve heard hundreds Giants fans call in to WFAN complaining about Coughlin even after they won both Super Bowls…”fire him”, “he sucks”, same with Eli Manning, because of a bad performance in a regular season game or whatever. Same with Yankee fans, actually worse. Boston fans are just generally the worst in the country next to Philly…but thats just my personal opinion, but I’ve listened to WBZ and they bitch far worse than anything I hear around here. That being said, while some Ravens fans may say stupid things,they’re a long way from 1st place in my experience.

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