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Flacco and the Future of the Franchise

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Flacco and the Future of the Franchise

Posted on 27 November 2012 by Thyrl Nelson

Long before the season began, Joe Flacco made a few waves and grabbed a few headlines with his proclamation here on the WNST airwaves that he considered himself an elite quarterback. Immediately after stating as much he attempted to clarify his logic in having to believe that way, but the statement had already been made, the bell had already been rung and the attention had already been cast in the direction of the sensational from a quarterback who, while improbably or inexplicably successful to this point in his career, could be described with any number of adjectives but not exactly sensational.

Since then, and even likely without those statements made by Flacco, everyone has been trying to figure out where he fits into the NFL’s quarterbacking hierarchy. Those who have already decided one way or the other on Falcco’s elite potential or lack thereof have been summarily empowered or silenced as the wind has blown and as his game by game fortunes have varied wildly.

 

The underlying story has been and remains a real issue for the Ravens. While it seems that there’s little doubt within the organization as to whether or not Flacco is capable of leading the team to the “promised land” of a Super Bowl title; the time for them to put up or shut up in that regard is rapidly reaching urgency.

 

After Flacco’s first game, a one-sided drubbing of the Cincinnati Bengals in Baltimore, Ravens head coach John Harbaugh essentially said that it’s time to pay that man. With his sporadic caliber of play, particularly on the road this season, Flacco has indirectly seemed to suggest through his play that he might not exactly be a safe bet to ever evolve into the franchise quarterback that the team may want him to be. Whichever way the front office is leaning, there have been plenty of compelling arguments, made on the field by his play, to suggest that they reconsider.

 

Soon enough though, Joe Flacco is going to get paid. Forgetting, for just a second about the possibility of his ever being elite, Ravens fans know all to well how difficult it can be to find a quarterback that could even be considered competent in comparison to NFL standards. We watched this team, after all, cling to Kyle Boller for far too long seemingly afraid that the polish that they had painstakingly tried to put on his skills might manifest elsewhere and come back to haunt them. Clearly Joe Flacco has shown far more polish than Boller ever did, and so the price of retaining him will be much greater…and potentially much riskier.

 

Maybe the Ravens caught a bit of a break when the new CBA was put into effect before last season. With the new CBA, the price of the franchise tags went down across the board. Last year the price of a franchise tagged quarterback was just over $14 million for one season. This year that number will likely be higher, but not much higher.

 

With each passing week the questions about Flacco seem to mount, as do the stakes. Maybe the Ravens see the franchise tag as another 16 game chance to kick the tires on Flacco. Even a second year of wearing the tag wouldn’t be preclusive from a pricing standpoint, and likely wouldn’t even cost the Ravens much more than they’d have to pay him under the terms of a long-term contract. But what exactly could this team learn about Flacco in 2 more seasons that they haven’t already found out in his first 5?

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Joe Flacco is not “elite”…but why does it matter?

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Joe Flacco is not “elite”…but why does it matter?

Posted on 25 September 2012 by John Sears

It’s a question that is asked every week it seems.  And that is fundamentally why Joe Flacco is not elite?  Elite status isn’t just gained overnight.  Joe Flacco did not all of sudden become elite because he beat Tom Brady and the Patriots.  Those who call him elite are just as bad as those jokers like Skip Bayless who doubt his abilities.

Before we continue, let’s be clear on this as well.  Joe Flacco did not win that game Sunday night.  A pass interference call won the Ravens that game.  I know this may not be what you want to hear but it’s the truth.  Had Devin McCourty not fallen on his face going after a ball thrown over Boldin’s head, Flacco would’ve been picked off, the Ravens would have lost and there would’ve been people calling for his head.

The biggest characteristic of being an elite quarterback is consistency.  Joe Flacco just isn’t consistent.  Too many times have we seen him have downright bad games.  Just look at the Eagles’ game two weeks ago.  He, at times, looks completely rattled out there.

Since he was drafted he has only been in the top ten in completion percentage and touchdowns once.  He was 10th in both categories in 2010.  He has never been top ten in yards.  You just can’t consider a person elite when these are the stats you are looking at.  He is consistently in the top 15 in these categories every year, however, which proves that he is very good quarterback.

The biggest argument for Flacco being elite is the number of wins he has had.  You are kidding yourself if you think Flacco is directly responsible for every single one of those.  In fact, he isn’t.  There have been plenty games over the years where he has played very mediocre and the Ravens have still come away with the win.

Another quality of elite status is stellar production in the playoffs.  The fact is, Flacco has underperformed in the playoffs.  He has a 53% completion percentage with 8 TD’s and 8 interceptions.  That is NOT elite.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not “hating” on Joe Flacco.  I have been one of his biggest supporters since he came to Baltimore.  I think Joe Flacco is a very good to great (at times) quarterback.  He just isn’t elite.  He is not on the level of Brady, Roethlisberger, or Brees.  Let’s be real here, the guy hasn’t even been to the Super Bowl.

But let’s not forget who Flacco has had to deal with over his four years in the league.  He has had Cam Cameron, who couldn’t even make Drew Brees look elite during his time in San Diego.  He has had to deal with some less than stellar wide receivers as well who have dropped some crucial balls (ahem…T.J., Lee I’m looking at you).

It just baffles me that we have this debate every week.  I’ll say it again.  It doesn’t happen overnight.

Why does Flacco have to be judged in such extremes? It seems like he is either elite or he is terrible.  Especially so in Baltimore. Joe Flacco is a very good quarterback who at times has horrible games.  Why does Flacco have to be elite? Well, he doesn’t.  He can be just what he is.  Very good.  And that’s what allowed the Ravens to win so many games over the years.

Through three games this year, Flacco is top five in yards and touchdowns.  So maybe this is the year he proves he deserves to be among the elite.  But like I said it doesn’t happen overnight and he may have to at least reach a Super Bowl to gain the label.  That’s exactly what it is though, a label.  And whether or not he has that label doesn’t take away from the fact that he is very good and has won a lot of games.

But please.  Can we just put this tiresome debate to rest for a few weeks?

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