A 4-part interview — The Jen Royle lawsuit (Part 4)

January 12, 2012 | Drew Forrester


RL — You don’t think the money was important?

DF — I’m sure it was, it was $800,000, that’s a lot of money to anyone.  She found an attorney who told her she had a chance at damages and she probably figured, “What the hell, what’s the worst that can happen?  If nothing else, I stand up for the females and get my name in the paper.  At best, I get a check for $800,000 minus what I pay the lawyers.  It’s a great country either way.”

RL — But ultimately?

DF — Ultimately it was just a way to take the radio station in town who had offended her to court.  Or try to, anyway.

RL — You mentioned something about sponsors of the station speaking out against the station?

DF — Not speaking out, but dropping us.  We had a sponsor the following week who said, “We read the stuff in the newspaper and we’re not happy.”  We replied, “But wait, the stuff you’re reading, those are just claims.  The case doesn’t really have any legs.” Their response was “Oh, we think it does have legs.  We believe it.”  So we lost that sponsor.

RL — Was it a surprise that she filed the lawsuit in the first place?

DF — I guess.  I don’t know, like I said earlier, that’s what people do these days.  You’re driving through the mall parking lot, you get distracted, and run into someone going 15 miles an hour.  The first thing the person you hit is thinking is, “What can I get out of the insurance company for this?”  People get fired all the time.  The first thing they think isn’t “Holy hell, how am I going to support my family now?”, they say to themselves, “I wonder if there’s grounds for an improper termination lawsuit?”  So, I wasn’t surprised by the lawsuit because it’s just what people in our country do these days, in my opinion.

RL — What evidence in the case was outrageous on her part?

DF — Those were claims…not evidence, remember?  I don’t need to discuss the actual case anymore.  That’s not meant to be a no comment.  I don’t like the term “no comment” even though sometimes, legally, it’s all you can say. There’s just no need to discuss the actual case itself, because it never happened.  It took five months for it to all come out in the wash, but it turned out that there wasn’t really a case to discuss.  So we don’t need to.

RL — Why was she the target of your jokes and jabs?

DF — I already said why.  She showed up here, didn’t really know much about Baltimore sports, then decided to take swipes at people from just about day one.  And she bragged about growing up in Boston and working in New York and I just found it to be off-putting.  To me, anyway.  And we’re competing for the same people, essentially.  She talks sports for a living and so do I.  And to me, it was laughable that I was competing with this person for listeners and readers when I knew that I had more much experience living and breathing Baltimore sports than she did.  It was competition to me, because we were both going for the same general audience. Last January, both Glenn and I tore into a male reporter from The Sun who wrote what we both thought was an unfair comment about Joe Flacco.  And we took him on for one reason — he grew up a Steelers fan, and Glenn and I both thought he was sharing his anti-Flacco opinion because, in fact, he was rooting for the Steelers and not giving Flacco a fair chance because he played for the Ravens.  So we beat him up pretty good on the air for a day or two and it caused a stir.  It had nothing to do with him being male.  It had everything to do with the guy being from Pittsburgh.  Period. (Please see next page)

10 Comments For This Post

  1. Anne Boone-Simanski Says:

    I very much enjoyed this series.

  2. Dan Says:

    Good interview and blog . very interesting indeed.
    Question , did you at WNST stop the remarks aimed at her
    while the suit was pending . She said they stopped and that was the purpose of the suit , to call attention to the remarks and make them stop . I didn’t hear much talk about her while listening to your show during that period . She said she got what she wanted , What say you .


    (DF: Of course, we all stopped mentioning her name while there was a lawsuit pending. We were under instruction to do so from the legal guys. The purpose of the lawsuit was to try and win an $800,000 settlement.)

  3. Jason Taylor Says:

    First it was Anita Marks, now Jen Royle. The shine came off of the turds,and the stink resonated throughout the Baltimore sports talk airwaves. Their act wore thin and now they’re gone…case closed.

  4. Jim Says:

    Drew, I for one really appreciate the insight you shared here. I know I wondered from the beginning how much validity her claims had and I was glad to see the news last summer that she dropped the case. As you noted so well, when it came time for her to go through with it, she couldn’t do it. That tells you everything. Keep up the good work, my friend.

  5. TimNATC Says:

    Drew – Really enjoyed the series. I grew up just outside of Baltimore and live in PA now. I get ALL of my Baltimore sports updates from you guys at WNST, keep up the good work.

  6. Pa Clampet Says:

    Any thought of publishing her discovery responses/ deposition transcripts from the case?

    Pa Clampet

    (DF: You’d have to ask her to do that.)

  7. Matt Says:

    Awesome interview series. Baltimore, not just WNST, is lucky that the lawsuit ended as it did because the truth is that the city benefits from the work WNST does, and a lawsuit to shut that down would have been unjust, unfair, and unfortunate. Kudos to you and your station for the perspective you offer, one of honesty and unbiased (or uninfluenced might be better) sports opinion.

  8. Chris from Boston Says:

    I am from Boston and have lived here for several years now. I am a big sports fan who is still loyal to the Boston teams I grew up with. Besides the Celtics our teams were not winners for the most part. Nowadays, as a sports fan, I will support Baltimore teams when they are not playing my hometown teams. As a Baltimore resident I am certainly not rooting against them. The problem I have with Jen Royle is that she thinks she is better than the fans/people of Baltimore and despite what she says was always rooting against the Orioles and the people of Baltimore. She’s says she was being impartial. She explained it by saying that she can’t tolerate losing (How can she say this growing up in Boston?) We prided ourselves on being loyalist and selling out Fenway even when things were the worst. For 86 Years! But in Baltimore Jen decides to disassociate herself with the Orioles and latch on to the Ravens because they are winning? Despite having never followed football? So Jen is really just a fair-weather fan.

    Jen has publicized her trips up to Boston to try to move “home” but her home is no more there than it is in Baltimore. She hasn’t lived in Boston to witness either of the World Series or any the 2000 Super Bowl victories. Why would Boston fans respect her? Actually if she ever got a job she’d probably get better treatment being an attractive woman, that is if she gets a job! I would, however, be super surprised if she does. Her social media accounts are out there for the world to see and if anyone is looking to hire her in that major market they are surely following her on Twitter, Facebook etc. These hiring managers at networks can see her battling with her listeners daily. She opens herself up to the scrutiny because she engaged the negative people who are always going to be out there. My brother and wife are uncontroversial journalists and you wouldnt believe the negativity they get daily. If the engaged it all they would be miserable. Jen, you think Baltimore is bad, you just wait, if you get a job in Boston and don’t know your stuff you will get your head ripped off in Boston. I actually feel bad for her because she had the opportunity to work in her hometown, a major market for sports but has probably ruined it in Baltimore by being negative and litigious. Who will go near her now?

  9. Damon Yaffe Says:

    This blog has gotten a lot of attention. I’ve been getting texts about the article and blog since noon today, maybe 15 or more. To clarify…I began working in local media in 1994 and for CBS in 1996. I was a regular on-air co-host, contributor at CBS starting in 2000, and that run ended on June 9, 2011. Prior to that period I was behind the scenes – producer, engineer, etc. Also, while it doesn’t matter at this point…I wasn’t fired at CBS. My contract was honored. Suffice it to say – I didnt like my options and made my own choice. Anything to the contrary is false. Beyond that, I cant comment due to contractual agreements I made. As for the direct message(s) implied/stated in Drew’s blog: 1) There are only a few local media outlets devoting time & room to sports. If you stack up the “talk” talent pool at Hearst (WBAL & WIYY) and WNST vs. anywhere else…it’s not even close. If what you’re looking for is “home grown Baltimore blood” running through the veins of the mouthpieces (other than Haynie, who is very solid). 2)It’s obvious to me…like a thunderbolt through my skull…when I’m back on-air my first two guests will be Jen Royle and Drew Forrester. Until then, I’ll swim with the crickets. Power to the people…carry on! GO RAVENS!!!!!!!! – Bulldog (DF: Thanks for the note. My apologies for chronicling your departure a “firing”. And I’m sorry you never got a call from The Sun or anyone else allowing you to talk about your career – which, as you noted, was MUCH lengthier than “others” in town – because you had a helluva run.)

  10. Damon Yaffe Says:

    No problems!

    If I may – I kinda ripped off the comment quickly yesterday. In doing so, I whiffed on kudos to Ken Weinman. Kenny is a good guy & does his best to deliver solid local flavor. Also, while we all know he didnt grow up in Bawlmer, Scott Garceau is the Filet Mignon in a sea of Happy Meals. The week I spent in Dallas last Super Bowl, producing Scott’s show was as good as it gets. Nearly every interview was ease-of-operation & an education…mainly because so many people know and respect the guy. For what it’s worth – jyst my opinions.

    Enjoy the game! – Bulldog

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