Ravens “short-changing” the fans? Huh? Really?

November 07, 2013 | Drew Forrester

Earlier this week, Tuesday to be exact, I received an e-mail from Larry who says he’s a Ravens season ticket holder and took issue with the fact that I was being – in his mind – too easy on the football team in the wake of a 3-5 start.

“What you don’t understand,” the e-mail read, “is that a lot of us feel shortchanged by what the Ravens have done with this team.”

I didn’t flip out or anything, but I got a little heated with that comment.  I spent ten minutes or so addressing it in the show.

Last night, Larry e-mailed me again.

“On today’s show, I heard you sarcastically say short-changed a few times and you referenced my e-mail to you and it sounded like you were making fun of me.  Well ask the fans if you don’t believe me.  But you don’t have the guts to because you’ll find out I’m right and most people out there think the same way I do.”



And, honestly, I couldn’t care less how many people “out there” think the same way Larry does.  It doesn’t matter to me if you think the Ravens have short-changed the fans.

You’re wrong if you think that.

That’s all.  Period.  Full stop.

The Ravens and the word “short-changing the fans” should never be used in the same sentence.


They certainly haven’t always been perfect — no team in the league can say they have, by the way — since they showed up here in 1996, but they’ve been to four AFC title games, two Super Bowls, and they’re 2-0 in those games.

What do the Browns and Lions have in common?

Answer:  They were both in business before you and I were born.  And they’ve never once been TO a Super Bowl.

That, my friends, is the definition of “short-changing your fans”.

This Ravens team might finish 8-8.  No question about that.  And, if they do, it would be their worst season under John Harbaugh and Joe Flacco.

That, however, isn’t completely unexpected the year after you’ve won the Super Bowl.

Unless you’re not paying attention to the way sports works, that is.

An 8-8 season after five straight playoff appearances and a World Championship shouldn’t be looked at as “short-changing the fans” in any situation.  What the Astros did last summer by breaking up their team and operating the entire season with a $30 million payroll was, to borrow a term, “short-changing the fans”.

The Ravens have paid out far more than they’ve taken in to the sports fans of Baltimore.  They’ve over-delivered, big time.

Speaking of the concept of “short-changing the fans”…how have the Orioles done since 1993?

12 Comments For This Post

  1. Kolo Jezdec Says:

    This is the sort of thing that happens when a team goes to the playoffs 5 straight years. They begin to think they are entitled to a Super Bowl run every year and anything less means they have been cheated.

    I bet those few fans who are feeling ‘short-changed’ would find a ready market for their PSLs and season tickets.

  2. Kolo Jezdec Says:

    I should clarify that “they” in the post above refers to some fans, not the players or most fans.

  3. unitastoberry Says:

    The Orioles have short changed the fans not the Ravens. Think about the Irsay family and how they took a team that won more regular season games from 1958-1970 than any other in football and turned them into a laughing stock,then called Mayflower. That’s short-changed. The Ravens long term are going to be winners as long as this current owner is at the helm. Post here Larry we wont bite you.

  4. The Armchair QB Says:

    This type of mentality is truly not worth dignifying!

  5. justafan Says:

    As John Steadman, the late sports editor would say,” The sun does not always shine on the same dog’s back.”

  6. lakerboy Says:

    Drew, you’re spot on about the major league team in Crabtown who regularly short changes its fans. And no, I’m not talking about the team who plays on Sunday and wears purple jerseys. I’m talking about the team that annually teases its fans by assembling a good team through acquisitions, but failing to improve the franchise by augmenting it through top tier free agents. I’m talking about the team that takes its fans to the precipice of greatness but fails to close the deal. I’m talking about the team whose ownership routinely pockets profits, chosing not to pay “the going rate” to put the franchise over the top. Its management would simply claim they are judicious spenders, when in actuality they are posers… annually shopping at Dollar General for discounted talent. The folks who own the team wearing orange and black short change the sporting public in B’more. The other franchise spends its time exploring ways to improve the on- field product, regardless of the bottom line.

  7. Rich Says:

    UtoB stole my thunder and I’d have figured he would. This “Larry” would have lost his mind over the shortchanging the 1970s Colts dealt out to the fans. The list is long and only ends with the loading of the Mayflowers.

  8. Chris from Bel Air Says:

    The Ravens are “short changing the fans” eh? I’m being short changed because I am lumped into the fan category with other “fans” making moronic statements like these. Talk about someone that can’t see further back or ahead more than the last 5 or next 5 minutes.

  9. Dan Says:

    Drew , you are disputing a point that Larry never made . He is not talking about the past 13 years , he is talking about THIS years 3 and 5 start, after winning the Super Bowl. Would it be asking to much that thay not have a total callapse because Ray Lewis and Matt Birk retired. As for the inept Orioles, they won more games then they lost in 2013 , An 8-8 season for the Ravens will NOT match the Orioles winning percentage of .525 , , and that’s never a good thing ..

  10. Vince Fiduccia Says:

    Memo to Larry and all like him: Don’t hit send!

  11. David Says:

    I would not go as far as saying the Ravens are “short changing” the fans. I would say far from it. Jacksonville, Oakland, St Louis, and even Cleveland are short changing the fans. Here is the main issue when you build a team and have a culture of winning every year that the season you start to not win every one loses their minds and panics and begin all this crazy talk. I get it. Fans are passionate and passionate for the team but you just can not do it every year. For 5 years of success there was going to come a time when they Ravens would not be that successful. This may be one of them. It may only happen for 2 or 3 seasons, but it will happen. We all know this is a crazy league as well and crazy things can happen. The Ravens could go and string 4 wins in a row putting them at 7-5 and could be 1 game out of the North. I don’t think it would happen but it very well could.

  12. John Wright Says:

    Well, Drew makes it simple (in his mind anyway)..

    “What do the Browns and Lions have in common?
    Answer: They were both in business before you and I were born. And they’ve never once been TO a Super Bowl. That, my friends, is the definition of “short-changing your fans”.”

    So any team that has been to a championship cannot shortchange their fans. Can someone pass this along to little Nestor, regarding the O’s.

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